I was the novice in a group of friends to climbed to the Base Camp of Everest.  It was horrible.  We were sick, it was far, it was cold and took from me more that I thought I had to give, physically and mentally.  Two people died in the group ahead of us, and their bodies lay in the open plan lodge where people had to sleep on the floor that night. What I had to say, held no legitimacy..  I say first hand what happens then there is no leadership.  There is a saying on the that I bourght back from the Mountain.  "If you make a mistake and not fix,it, then you make two mistakes".