Thank you so much for stopping by and commenting.  It sounds to me from your comment that you don't believe in separating the academic dishonesty from the grade, but please correct me if I am wrong.  What I do wonder about is how we "educate" kids in a way that helps them understand without creating a climate of fear.  We can show kids examples of people that have suffered the consequences of academic dishonesty, but kids don't really learn from example as well as we'd like.  Otherwise no teen would ever drink and drive.  Most teens learn best from experience, but how do we make the experience of mistake-making educational?  I definitely want the consequences to fit the crime, to be both a deterrent and survivable, fair and consistent.

I would love to continue this conversation with you and any others that would like to jump in with their 2 cents...  I don't think this is easy.